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Earned Not Given | Connor Koch on Risk Tolerance, Resilience, and the Road to Becoming a Hunter

May 6, 2026 by Brierley Grace

EP 681: Connor Koch

Some episodes just take a minute to get right. We lost the first version of this one — somewhere out there is an SD card with what I’m sure was a hell of a conversation — and you know what? Maybe that was the universe telling us to go again. Because this one hit different.

Connor Koch is one of those guys who just operates on a different level. Arc’teryx ambassador for seven years, a man who’s climbed every 14er in the lower 48, skied big lines from Alaska to the High Sierra, and survived an 1,100-foot avalanche ride in ways that defy explanation. He’s the real deal. And now? He’s deep in the hunting rabbit hole, chasing elk solo through grizzly country with a bow he just learned to shoot, logging 70-plus days in the field and coming home with the kind of stories that remind you why we do all of this.

We cover a lot of ground in this one. Connor grew up in a tiny San Diego-area town, never saw mountains until his Nissan’s transmission blew up somewhere near a place called Zzyzx on the way to Colorado. He pulled into Vail Pass, jumped out into the June air, and knew — at a cellular level, he says — that he’d found home. That moment launched a decade of elite mountain pursuits that would shape everything that came after.

We dig into what it’s like to be a master of one discipline and a beginner in another — and how humbling it is when all your fitness and mental toughness still can’t outwit a wily bull elk. Connor talks about burning a shot opportunity 45 minutes into his first day of bow hunting, running 70+ days solo in the backcountry, getting his camp ripped apart by a known problem grizz the same night he hit a bull high, and why he doesn’t regret any of it. That’s the journey. That’s the process.

But it goes way deeper than hunting. Connor opens up about the avalanche that changed him — a full slope that fractured wall to wall, a 1,100-foot washing machine ride, karate-chopping blocks of wind slab before getting obliterated, and emerging from the toe of the debris alive while his partners tunneled out around him. He talks about what that does to your relationship with risk, with the mountains, and with yourself. And then, the hardest decision of his career: turning down a prepackaged invite to ski 8,000-meter peaks in Pakistan, not because he couldn’t do it, but because he finally understood that some pages in your book are okay to leave blank.

This is a conversation about reinvention, risk tolerance, the courage to step off the ship when it’s time, and what happens when a man who spent a decade trying to conquer mountains starts learning to be conquered by elk season. Oh, and also — he’s catering his entire wedding with two cow elk and some deer he harvested himself. That’s the kind of dude Connor Koch is.
Pull up a chair. This one’s worth every minute.

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Timestamp Chapters
0:00 — Intro & Sponsor Reads — onX Hunt and Bridger Watch
2:15 — The Lost Episode: A Cop, a Bow, and a County Line
4:00 — Connor Gets His Life Back in Order — Four Months of Spring Skiing
5:00 — The Purcells and the High Sierra — Whitney, Muir, Langley, and a Broken Binding
7:00 — 30,000-Foot View: Arc’teryx, Mountain Pursuits, and a Big Boy Job
9:00 — Climbing Every 14er in the Lower 48 — And Why the Number Is Arbitrary
10:30 — The Origin Story: Erik Weihenmayer, a Blown Transmission, and Finding Home in Colorado
14:00 — Arriving at Vail Pass and Knowing — The Moment That Changed Everything
15:00 — Identity, Selfishness, and the Next Chapter
17:00 — Close Calls: A Rubber Band, a Carabiner, and 200 Feet of Air
19:00 — How Hunting Fills the Gap — And Gives You a More Complete Relationship With the Landscape
22:00 — Vert Records, Big Days, and Getting Old
23:00 — Bringing a Mountain Athlete’s Mindset Into Elk Hunting — Asset or Liability?
26:00 — Going Solo: Three Months, a Bow, and the Backcountry
27:00 — Losing a Bull on September 15th — The Shot, the Rain, and the Grizzly
31:00 — What It Means to Really Want Something and Not Get It
33:00 — Elk Hunting Is Not Meritocracy — And That’s the Point
37:00 — Visualizing Success: How Pre-Prep and Commitment Breed Confidence
38:00 — Confidence in the Face of Doubt — The Dark Arts of High-Exposure Terrain
43:00 — A Duty to the Animal: Why He Never Considered Leaving Camp
45:00 — Hunting as a New Relationship With Death — Feeding His Wedding on Wild Elk
47:00 — Wild Pigs, Weddings, and Getting Attacked at the Worst Possible Moment
49:00 — The Honest Ratio: 70 Days to One Elk
52:00 — If You Only Had 10 Days: The Discipline of Slowing Down
55:00 — Day One, 45 Minutes In, Five-Point at 42 Yards — And Why He Let Him Walk
58:00 — The Advice No One Wants to Hear: Passing Elk Builds the Best Hunters
1:00:00 — Confidence on the Skinny: Why Doubt Has No Place on Exposed Terrain
1:01:00 — The First Avalanche — Skiing Into a Rock Wall and Getting Shepherded Out with One Hand
1:03:00 — The Second Avalanche — An 1,100-Foot Ride, a Bag of Costco Mangoes, and Everyone Lives
1:11:00 — Redefining Risk and Stepping Back From the Edge
1:13:00 — Stealing Fire, Broken Necks, and the Identity Shift Into Bow Hunting
1:16:00 — The Pakistan Trip He Had to Turn Down — And Why He’s Finally Okay With Blank Pages
1:21:00 — What It Means to Move Into the Next Chapter
1:22:30 — Final Ask: Try the Thing That Scares You
1:23:30 — Wrap-Up and Watch Plug

 

3 Key Takeaways for Listeners

1. Your Greatest Strength in One Arena Can Be Your Biggest Weakness in Another
Connor came into elk hunting as an elite mountain athlete — faster, fitter, and more mentally tough than almost anyone in the field. And it nearly worked against him. He was blowing out animals by moving too fast, pushing wind when he shouldn’t have, covering miles that didn’t need covering. The hard-won lesson: hunting rewards patience and animal knowledge above all else. Fitness is a tool, not a cheat code. The most valuable thing a hunter can develop — that gut intuition built from thousands of hours of observation — can’t be outworked or outrun. Know what you bring to the table, and be honest about where the gaps are.

2. The Process Is the Point — Not Just a Cliché
Connor spent 70+ days chasing elk solo and came home with hard-earned lessons he wouldn’t trade for anything. He let a five-point walk at 42 yards on day one. He lost a bull to a high hit, a rainstorm, and a problem grizzly. He laid in his shredded tent for days still searching. And he says he doesn’t regret any of it. Not because it sounds good, but because every one of those moments compounded into something real. The hunters who last — and who eventually become consistently successful — are the ones who decide early that the journey is the whole thing, not a detour on the way to the outcome.

3. Knowing When to Step Off the Ship Is Its Own Kind of Courage
One of the most powerful moments in this conversation is when Connor talks about turning down an invite to ski 8,000-meter peaks in Pakistan — a trip he’d been dreaming about for years. Not because he was scared. Not because he couldn’t do it. But because he finally understood that some chapters have to close so others can open. He’d survived avalanches, close calls, and years of operating on the edge, and he arrived at a place of genuine peace with leaving certain pages in his book blank. That kind of self-awareness — knowing your season, honoring your current chapter, and resisting the pull of old identity — is rare. And it applies way beyond the mountains.

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EP 318: Brad Brooks Backpack Hunting and Gear

January 24, 2019 by Cody Rich


Welcome to the podcast! In today’s episode, I am joined by my buddy Brad Brooks who somehow has not been on the podcast in over 300 episodes. Brad is the owner of Argali Outdoors and has created some great film and is also a hardcore backpack hunter and gearhead. Time flew by in this episode and we never even got to half of the stuff we wanted to talk about. In fact, Brad and I were talking and we’ll probably end up doing a part two to this podcast. In this podcast, we talk a bit about entrepreneurship, as Brad is a fellow entrepreneur and the struggles of the balancing work and hunting. We also cover a lot of tips on backpack hunting both in early season as well as late. This season Brad, Ryan Callaghan, and a couple buddies joined in on a pretty epic backcountry mule deer hunt in Idaho that ended up being in the single-digit temperatures.  We talk about what backpack trips in those temps look like in comparison to early season and some tips for packing necessary items.

Also big thank you to all of you who have supported the podcast on Patreon, I can’t thank you guys enough. We have a long ways to go but I think we are going to be able to do some really cool things over there. If you haven’t yet, go check out our Patreon page and sign up if you want a chance at winning a new stone glacier 40/56 pack. We will be drawing at the end of the month, so get your name in the hat if you want to win.

Hope you enjoy this episode and if you have more questions on gear for Brad, please leave a comment and we can cover those in part 2

Show Notes:
Shot Show & the Industry – 0:05:51
Brad Brooks & His Company, Argali – 0:13:58
Social Pressure & Outside Influences – 0:19:40
Backpack Hunting Gear & Advice – 0:25:47
Ideal Camp Spot, Shelters, & Bedding – 0:38:22
Brad’s Late Season Mule Deer Hunt – 0:43:37
Brad’s Gear: Early vs

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. Late Season – 0:51:46
Brad’s Game Bags – 1:01:38
Ridiculous Gear that you Still Carry – 1:10:21
Weight vs Comfort – 1:12:05
Where to Find Argali Gear Online & Videos – 1:20:00

Today’s podcast is made possible by the awesome folks at On X. I can’t thank the good folks at On X enough, not only for making the podcast possible but for such killer product as well. There probably hasn’t bee more than a day or two in the last three months that I haven’t used the On X App. This is my second full year Using nothing but the On X app on my phone and honestly, I don’t see any reason to use a GPS. If you already have On X be sure to use the TRO code when you renew your account to not only save 20% off but also help support the podcast. If you don’t have the On X app, well, I guess you just don’t know what your missing. OnXmaps.com or available at in your favorite app store.

MTNTOUGH Fitness Lab located in Bozeman, MT, has established itself as the elite source for improving mental toughness, physical preparation, and performance research for the backcountry hunter. I personally tested their pre-season Backcountry Hunter program here in Bozeman, with Dustin Diefenderfer, the founder of MTNTOUGH and I loved it. It is a great workout that will test you and push you to the limits physically and mentally.
Their online programs are 90-days, all video based, and is delivered through the private MTNTOUGH site that is accessible on any device.  Think of it as a private social training platform specifically built for Backcountry Hunters. They now have a 90-day online program for pre-season, and a brand new 90 day online program for post-season. The post-season program is specifically built to pack strength back on to a hunter after a long season in the field and will be available Jan 1. An ideal winter program to capitalize on all the work you have put in this hunting season. Make sure to go www.mtntough.com to take a look at these programs and there you will also find a few of their favorite workouts as free downloads, including a no-gear and a heavy pack workout.

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EP 314: Ara Megerdichian and Dustin Diefenderfer on Fitness and Mindset

January 10, 2019 by Cody Rich


Welcome to the podcast! For about the last year Now I have been getting to know the guys at MTN Tough and both Ara and Dustin are great guys. Ara is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to fitness and is a retired Lt Colonel and Army Ranger who taught physical education at West Point. In this episode, we dive into developing mental toughness, creating a routine, overcoming injuries, pushing your limits and a lot more. Ara, like myself, has had a number of injuries to overcome. We dive into the theory of working out the opposing side of an injury to carry strength throughout the body. Ara, is big on creating the habit vs training for the event and we talk about how training for the event can cause burnout in athletes. We also talk about pushing the limits of recovery vs understanding your new normal. If you are looking to get back in shape or just getting a jump on 2019 season this is a good kick start.

Show Notes:
Introductions – 0:03:15
Post Season Feedback – 0:05:05
Why Goals Help Push Your Limits – 0:09:19
Advice & Help to Push Through – 0:18:06
Facing Injuries & Overcoming Them – 0:23:47
Knowing When to Ignore Your Ego – 0:31:44
Negative Effects of In & Out of Shape Cycle – 0:37:36
Hunting Burnout & Mental Toughness – 0:55:15
Getting Yourself to the Next Level – 1:02:09
Where to get Info on the Fitness Programs – 1:13:19

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Today’s podcast is made possible by the awesome folks at ON X Maps. I can’t thank the good folks at On X enough, not only for making the podcast possible but for such killer product as well. There probably hasn’t been more than a day or two in the last three months that I haven’t used the On X App. This is my second full year Using nothing but the On X app on my phone and honestly, I don’t see any reason to use a GPS. One of the cool things I started doing this year was turning my tracker on and saving routes anytime I found a predominant elk or game trail. How many times have you thought to yourself “I know there’s a trail right here somewhere”. By saving all of those trails I now have those trails saved on my app and can refer back to them anytime I am cutting through that same area

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EP 310: Micah Fink of Heroes and Horses

December 20, 2018 by Cody Rich


Welcome to the podcast, today I am joined by my buddy Micah Fink. Micah and I were sat next to each other at a dinner almost two years ago and hit it off talking about horses, hunting, and all kinds of random stuff shinanigans. A mutual friend had just done a killer video on Micah and his Heroes and Horses nonprofit called One Eighty Out. Micah is a former Navy Seal and complete badass, who really found his piece himself through horses and the cowboy lifestyle. Micah started Heroes and Horses as a way to give back and help other veterans overcome their struggles of PTSD and other demons they faced after war

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. Micah has a great mindset around overcoming your struggles and becoming stronger through your struggles of life. In this episode, we dive into Micah’s crazy story of being at ground zero on 9/11, becoming a seal, Traveling the remote jungle of the Amazon, finding his purpose in helping veterans, and crazy has horse wrecks. There was so much that we didn’t get to but an absolute great podcast either way. We are already planning a second episode, so let us know what you want to hear more of but I think Micah and I could BS for hours.

Show Notes:
How 9/11 Changed Micah’s Life – 0:03:48
Processing Trauma & Adversity – 0:14:35
Micah’s Amazon Experience – 0:22:22
Micah’s Mustang Ride from NM to AZ – 0:44:45
The Stress of Running Horses – 0:51:41
How Heroes and Horses was Started – 0:58:04
Micah’s Advice for Helping Veterans – 1:12:11
This Mindset and Raising Kids – 1:22:13
How to Help Heroes for Horses – 1:31:25

Today’s podcast is made possible by the awesome folks at On X. I can’t thank the good folks at On X enough, not only for making the podcast possible but for such killer product as well. There probably hasn’t bee more than a day or two in the last three months that I haven’t used the On X App. This is my second full year Using nothing but the On X app on my phone and honestly, I don’t see any reason to use a GPS. If you already have On X be sure to use the TRO code when you renew your account to not only save 20% off but also help support the podcast. If you don’t have the On X app, well, I guess you just don’t know what your missing. OnXmaps.com or available at in your favorite app store.

MTNTOUGH Fitness Lab located in Bozeman, MT, has established itself as the elite source for improving mental toughness, physical preparation, and performance research for the backcountry hunter. I personally tested their pre-season Backcountry Hunter program here in Bozeman, with Dustin Diefenderfer, the founder of MTNTOUGH and I loved it. It is a great workout that will test you and push you to the limits physically and mentally.
Their online programs are 90-days, all video based, and is delivered through the private MTNTOUGH site that is accessible on any device.  Think of it as a private social training platform specifically built for Backcountry Hunters. They now have a 90-day online program for pre-season, and a brand new 90 day online program for post-season. The post-season program is specifically built to pack strength back on to a hunter after a long season in the field and will be available Jan 1. An ideal winter program to capitalize on all the work you have put in this hunting season. Make sure to go www.mtntough.com to take a look at these programs and there you will also find a few of their favorite workouts as free downloads, including a no-gear and a heavy pack workout.

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EP 307: Wild Yukon with Greg McHale and Travis Macy

December 13, 2018 by Cody Rich


I first met Travis Macy over a year ago when we did our first podcast together. Travis is the author of The Ultra Mindset and has spent the better part of his life competing at the highest level of various adventure races and extreme competitions. He was just getting into hunting at the time but we hit it off very well as we have similar mindsets and honestly there is a lot of overlap in adventure racing and mountain hunting. Fast forward a bit to this year Travis went up to the Yukon with a fellow adventure racer and friend of his Greg McHale. Greg is also an adventure racing badass but has also been extreme mountain hunting most of his life.  Travis reached out and basically said you gotta get this guy on the podcast. I am glad I did as Greg is such a genuine guy but also an interesting hunter as he uses so much of what he does adventure racing to make him a better sheep hunter. Kayaks, rafts, bikes, and planes he has an arsenal of toys to go farther and harder than the next guy. A fun conversation about the Yukon, mindset, sheep hunting, and more.

Travis’ Charity – #TeamDonateLifeEndure
Travis’ Book – The Ultra Mindset: An Endurance Champion’s 8 Core Principles for Success in Business, Sports, and Life

Greg’s Show – “Greg McHale’s Wild Yukon”

Show Notes:
Travis & Greg Introductions – 04:13
Crazy Canadian Snow Race for Greg & Travis – 08:03
Greg Draw to Hunting & Adventure Races – 12:39
How Racing Skills Carry Over to Hunting – 15:47
Mindset & Discipline – 23:07
Hunting with the Lesser Experienced – 29:33
Travis’ Outlook After Hunting with Greg – 33:18
Greg’s High Expectations of Solitude – 41:47
The Unwritten Laws of the North Land – 46:15
Greg’s Giant Archery Ram – 50:47
You CAN Train & Practice All Year Long – 57:28
Make Goals, Time & Improve Yourself – 1:05:54
Travis’ Charity & His Book “The Ultra Mindset”- 1:14:37
Greg’s Show “Greg McHale’s Wild Yukon” & Social Media – 1:15:54

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