- Interview starts (5:00)
- The first backcountry experience (12:00)
- Advice to guys over east who want to try elk hunting (16:15)
- The best way to learn how to hunt elk (21:00)
- The classic elk vs mule deer fight (28:15)
- Leaving a hunt early (32:00)
- Coming out empty handed (34:30)
- “Failed” hunts (38:30)
- Using pack animals (42:00)
- Pack goats (46:00)
- Pack lamas (50:00)
- The prehistoric lama warning call (54:00)
- Finding backcountry podcast (1:07:00)
Whats up boys and girls, ladies, and gents. It’s time for another episode of the podcast. I am home and finally back from about a month straight of trade shows. Had a blast catching up with everyone and meeting tons of new people. Huge Thank you to everyone who stopped me to say hi, I am still blown away at how many people listen to the show every week and just thank you for all the support. I had so much fun just having out and hanging out with folks that I only recorded two podcasts. Which is fine I have a ton of great interviews lined up with some truly great under the radar type folks that I think you guys will really like. This week is from the Hunt Expo though and a podcast collaboration of sorts. Today I’m joined today by the crew behind finding backcountry podcast, the Wittwer Brothers, Dustin and Jason, and Corey Beckendorf. I really wanted to talk to Jason about big Muleys but with three elk guys against one Mule Deer guy, I’m sure you know where the conversation went. There are some good takeaways this episode from newbie to veteran, I like how it turned out. Had a blast with these guys and I will definitely have to have Jason back on to do a Muley Monday.
One reason I am pumped to be back from the show is to get back to work on the Backcountry Fuel Box. For those who haven’t heard, I am launching a new subscription box called Backcountry Fuel Box. Each month we are going to send you a box of backcountry meals and snacks to try out with each box having $40-$50 dollars worth of cool new products. I am super excited to finally get this thing out to you guys and so far at the shows people have been overwhelmingly in support of it. The first box will go out March 20th ish. We are taking pre-sign ups which is just your email, and if you sign up I am going to give away 3 free boxes to those of you who pre-register and take the survey. That closes this Sunday so get your name in the hat. Also, be on the lookout for a Backcountry Fuel update episode next week because we have a really cool giveaway next week. Go check it output your email in, take the 2-minute survey and you could be one of three lucky people to win a free box of goodies.
This episode is also made possible by the good folks at On X Maps and the On X Hunt app. Now is tag draw season and any serious hunter is doing a boatload of research to find that sweet spot that no one else knows about. One commonality I have found among the top hunters in the world is that they read maps like no one else. they know how to find the honey wholes that nobody has been into in years. On X is a great tool for this. When I am researching new areas I have my On X account pulled up and I can use various layers to scout areas I have never been to. Before I put in for a unit I always pull it up and see if there is a good chance I can find something no one else or at least few other people see. The huge part about this over just google earth is that now all the points I save while scouting on the desktop transfer over to the app on my phone and are right there to scout this summer when I do draw the tag. On X its a really handy tool. Get 20% off your membership with promo TRO.
Hey guys, were super excited about today’s show. Most of you guys have probably been following along on Born and Raised’s youtube channel and watched their Land of the Free series. If you haven’t yet, I highly recommend you watch this awesome series of fifty day’s elk hunting in five different states. It was an awesome project, and to celebrate the success of it, we hosted an event in Kelso Washington, and recorded this podcast live in front of an awesome audience of fans. The show was great, and we’re super thankful for those of you that bought tickets and attended, and we are thinking about doing another event in the future, so let us know where you guys would want us to go! We had tons of giveaways and raffles, and got to meet and talk to a bunch of fans, so you won’t want to miss the next one! For those of you who couldn’t make it though, we recorded the event to share with you guys. During the show, we did have some highlight videos to play, which you will hear in the podcast. So if you want to watch the event and see those videos, head over to the Born and Raised youtube channel, where we’ve posted a video recording with the highlight videos for you to watch. We hope you enjoy this behind the scenes podcast of the Land of the Free podcast, and thanks so much for listening!
- Show starts (5:00)
- An awesome beginning to the season (17:00)
- The first bull trent has ever passed on (31:00)
- Steve’s bull (46:00)
- Treavor’s bull (1:02:00)
- A cold way to end things (1:13:00)
- Land of the Free 2.0? (1:23:00)
This episode is brought to you by On X Hunt. I recently harvested a great bull in Montana and I owe a huge part of that to my OnX. This was an area that I had hunted years ago but because of On X Hunt I was actually able to find a new access point to get into the area from a new way and save myself a lot of miles. For that hunt, I actually spent a ton of time on my laptop scouting areas and marking locations which is super cool because then when I get out in the field all of those points of interest I marked on my computer are now right there on my phone. It all worked out really well and I ended up finding a really cool bull and was lucky enough to harvest him. Another really cool new feature of the OnX hunt app is that after I shot the bull I was able to share that location with my buddy Butch who was coming in to help me pack out. which made it super convenient for him to know exactly where to find me. On X Hunt is hands down my best hunting tool I have for under $100 dollars and highly recommend getting it. Check it out and use The Rich Outdoors promo code TRO to save %20 off your membership. On X Hunt know where you stand.
This episode is brought to you by GoHunt.com Now is the time to start planning and start scheming what hunts and where you are going to go this upcoming season and goHUNT in my favorite tool for the job. I will spend hours and hours on goHUNT.com in the next couple months, because planning in the off season is one of the biggest keys to success during season. GoHUNT is continuously adding new features and adding so much value for its members that is blows me away. GoHUNT.com is a game changer if you want to go on great hunts it starts right now in the off season with goHUNT
Well, because I know you guys can’t get enough of ol’ Elk Nut Paul Medel I had to have him back on and dive into the seasons’ highs and lows. Paul was on for Wapiti Wednesday back in August and I think literally blew peoples minds as we ended up talking in depth elk calling tactics for nearly 3 hours. This time he is back and this episode is jammed packed with elk knowledge as well. Get ready to take some notes is all I have to say.
Real quick before we get started, earlier this week I posted a State of the Union of sorts where I talked about some of the big plans for 2018 as well as the launch of my new project Backcountry Fuel Box. A monthly subscription box for backcountry snacks, meals, bars, mixes, and everything else you could need for fuel on your next hunt. We have already received a bunch of feedback but I would love for you guys to do me a favor and check it out. If you wanna hear more listen to episode 192 or head over to Backcountry Fuel Box .com sign up for the prelaunch and we will send you all kinds of information about the project as well enter you in to get the first box free, and we are going to be giving a bunch of free boxes to the listeners for all your guys’ support. Now without further ado and for your listening pleasure its time to dive into a rabbit-hole of elk knowledge. Have a very Merry Christmas everyone, enjoy the holiday and we shall be back next Thursday Morning.
- Interview starts (7:00)
- Creative calling systems (15:00)
- Early season bugling (21:30)
- Bulls bugling out of his bed (25:00)
- The elk thermostat (35:30)
- Calling a bull with an arrow in him (41:00)
- Throw everything at him (49:15)
- Location sequence early season (51:30)
- Mistakes to learn from (59:00)
- Getting into a rut fest (1:08:45)
- When to push in or pull out (1:23:45)
- Don’t judge a book by its cover (1:41:00)
- The Elk Nut App (1:49:30)
- How to get the app (2:06:15)
This episode is brought to you by GoHunt.com Now is the time to start planning and start scheming what hunts and where you are going to go this upcoming season and goHUNT in my favorite tool for the job. I will spend hours and hours on goHUNT.com in the next couple months because planning in the offseason is one of the biggest keys to success during the season. GoHUNT is continuously adding new features and adding so much value for its members that blows me away. GoHUNT.com is a game changer if you want to go on great hunts it starts right now in the offseason with goHUNT
When it comes to adding value for its customers The new Gear shop is huge it is the best place to buy any gear. From researching gear to getting the best price The goHUNT gear Shop is the place Not only does the team at goHUNT hand pick and test everything in the gear shop, but because they are a membership-based company they offer the best prices on items, on top of points back to buy even more gear. It is a great system and a huge benefit of being a member.
If you have looked into before but you just don’t want to spend the money I promise you this membership is worth every penny. As a sponsor of the show, if you use The Rich Outdoors promo code TRO you will help support the show as well as automatically get $50 credit put in your account to use in the gear shop. Like I said this membership is such a valuable tool right now when trying to plan out next season hunts.
On X Maps
This episode is brought to you by On X Hunt. I recently harvested a great bull in Montana and I owe a huge part of that to my OnX. This was an area that I had hunted years ago but because of On X, I was actually able to find a new access point to get into the area from a new way and save myself a lot of miles. For that hunt, I actually spent a ton of time on my laptop scouting areas and marking locations which are super cool because then when I get out in the field all of those points of interest I marked on my computer are now right there on my phone. It all worked out really well and I ended up finding a really cool bull and was lucky enough to harvest him. Another really cool new feature of the OnX hunt app is that after I shot the bull I was able to share that location with my buddy Butch who was coming in to help me pack out. which made it super convenient for him to know exactly where to find me. On X Hunt is hands down my best hunting tool I have for under $100 dollars and highly recommend getting it. Check it out and use The Rich Outdoors promo code TRO to save %20 off your membership. On X Hunt know where you stand.
A little bit of a State of the Union so to speak. For those who just recently started listening, I wanna say welcome to the show. This past year has been a whirlwind and I know there are a ton of new listeners. I have to admit, back when I started this whole little podcast thing, it stemmed from the selfish desire to ask questions and learn more from those ahead of me. I was so bored of the 500-word magazine articles that merely toted the “five tips to killing the bull of a lifetime”. Even the hunting books that only covered a general outline and the basics of hunting were a snooze. I had been listening to podcasts for years about all kinds of random topics and loved how much the platform allowed you to nerd out on a specific topic. Somewhere along the way, in my desire to learn more, ask better questions, and hear great hunting stories, I realized that there are a lot of people in my shoes as well. I am not the best hunter by any stretch of the imagination, nor do I seek fame in any sense of the word. To be honest, I despise it, because ego is the enemy, but if my journey to be a little better and push myself a little harder every year motivates you to get after it as well, then awesome. I can’t tell you how awesome it is to get success photos and messages thanking the podcast for their success. If one of the byproducts of me getting excited about September is motivating others to get after it, that’s great!
Last year, in an attempt to just be able to do an elk podcast every week, we launched a little thing called Wapiti Wednesday. At the time, it was intended to be a shorter 20-30 minute show on elk hunting, but when the first 2-3 episodes went well over an hour, I knew there was no way to cut Wapiti Wednesday down to a short conversation nor was there a need to. In fact, the Elk Nut episode went nearly 3 hours and I can’t tell you how many people told me they listened to that episode multiple times. Then, with a quality Mule Deer tag in my pocket, I figured I better learn as much as I can about that, so we launched Muley Monday as well. Now I like to give a little grief to all my buddies, telling them that chasing elk is much better than the chasing stinky jackrabbits with horns on their heads, but chasing mule deer is definitely growing on me. Now that I live in a state with killer mule deer hunting and terrible blacktail hunting, I may spend a little more time chasing sticky mule deer bucks. If only for the fact that I need redemption and love the new challenge.
I have been getting pounded with questions about when Wapiti Wednesday and Muley Monday are coming back. To say that they were a huge hit is quite the understatement. I can’t thank you all enough for tuning in every week. My original plan was to run Wapiti Wednesday and Muley Monday from June to October, however, if the death threats to bring you more don’t stop, we may have to bump those up to may. Your guys’ support has been amazing and I can’t thank you enough. 2018 is no different and we plan to bring you a lot more. Muley Monday will be back, Wapiti Wednesday will be back, and we’re adding a Tag Tuesday from time to time though probably not every Tuesday for draw season. We will also still be here every Thursday for more great interviews with an even wider spectrum of personalities, and yes, more of The Walt and Dave Show. Again I can’t thank you guys and gals enough for the support and I hope to keep this show a good mix of whatever I find interesting albeit sometimes random, and more of what you guys want to hear, including doing some live podcasts.
That being said, our first live podcast is scheduled for January 6th in Longview, Washington at the Columbia Theatre. I’m pretty pumped for this actually. The Born and Raised Outdoors crew and the Phelps Game calls guys are all really, really good dudes and good friends, and what better way to do your first live podcast than to get your elk hunting buddies together and shoot the shit. The Land of the Free project that they have been doing is amazing and I couldn’t be happier for their success. You won’t find many people who will outwork those guys and they have been working toward this success for a long damn time. For the live podcast will do a podcast with the whole crew, and then do Q&A segment, as well as a meet and greet. I think it is almost sold out, so if you want tickets better hurry. So long as this isn’t a complete failure, then I would imagine we’ll be doing more of these in 2018.
I also have a big announcement that I have been working on for the last couple of months and would love your input on.
It all started as a hair-brained idea last summer, and if you know me, my brain produces those about every three to five seconds. So, like most hair-brained ideas I didn’t give it much further thought. This little gem though kept popping back into my head over and over, and initially, I put it off because honestly, I just did not have the time to stack another thing on my plate. However, like any good idea does, it persisted. Now, over the years I have come to learn to not just dive into something right away (pun totally intended) but to wait until the excitement wears off. If it still seems like a good idea, then maybe it is worth pursuing. So, over the course of hunting season, I kicked around the idea even more and talked it over with hunting buddies. (Which, let’s be honest, hunting camp has been the sounding board of both great ideas and terrible ones for probably hundreds of years.)
The concept actually stems from my own personal needs. I was sitting there one day and thought, “I wish there was one of those subscription boxes that would send me all the bars and meals that I use for hunting.” For one, I feel like there are a ton of companies constantly popping up producing cool new products, and I would love to try them all, whether it be Off Grid Food Company, Dark Timber Coffee, Heather’s Choice, Humble Foods, Green Belly or Big Sur bars, there are so many options and they all take time to track down and order. Personally, I find myself not getting around to ordering very often if at all. Half the time, I fill the shopping cart at Walmart on the way to camp or at best, the night before, which ultimately costs me an arm and a leg just to live in the woods for a weekend. So the more I thought about it, the more the idea intrigued me. As far as hunting goes, my gear is pretty dialed. I know what works and what I can live without, but the food is the one thing I’m always going through, and it’s also something that is vastly improving and the industry is growing every year. As we become more conscious of where our nutrition comes from, it only makes sense that we are looking for the best fuel for our bodies while we do so.
Enter Backcountry Fuel Box, a monthly subscription box that will send you all the bars, blocks, snacks, mixes, and meals to your door. It will be the ultimate way to not only save on the supplies you use anyway, but also to try out a wide variety of high-quality options, while not having to think about it or spend the time finding and ordering new products. Each month for $29 bucks you will receive $40-$50 dollars of food you will actually use. Everything in the box will be hand-picked items that will work great as backcountry fuel. Like I said, this idea stems from both my own needs and what I’ve found from the podcast that is lacking. Before I actually kick it off though, I really want your opinions. Is this something that you guys, the listeners, would actually want? I mean, I may think it’s a great idea, but if I’m the only one then it doesn’t much matter. I am hoping to launch the first box in March and would love to hear your thoughts and input. Just drop your info in at Backcountry Fuel Box.com and be sure to leave some feedback in the comments section. I will say that there will be a number of free boxes given away to early supporters. Honestly, I’m somewhat hesitant to do much of a giveaway to start out, because I want your honest feedback and not just a bunch of people signing up for free stuff. However, I am hoping that the decision to launch or not launch is very clear based on feedback, so please let me know what you think. Again that is Backcountry Fuel Box.com and I will put a link in the show notes.
Thank you all for your support of the podcast and here’s looking forward to an even better 2018.
Welcome to the show, today I am joined by my buddy Dale Evans of Relentless Soul Photography. Dale is a great photographer who spends a boat load of time following critters around with both a camera and a bow. Now Dale is a fantastic photographer and I highly recommend you go check out his work. In fact, I am getting one of his pieces for the new podcast room because I love it so much. The interesting thing about Dale though is how he ended up in Montana or the in the west at all. Dale was born and raised in Florida and after coming out to Wyoming for an Elk hunt in 2010 fell so in love with elk hunting and the west, he basically uprooted his entire life plan and moved to Wyoming so that he could elk hunt every year. That is the power of the bugle right there my friends. Anyway, Dale and I had a great conversation about photography, elk hunting, and chasing your dreams. Hope you guys enjoy this episode.
- Interview starts (4:30)
- Growing up watching western hunters (9:30)
- First successful elk hunt (10:30)
- Packing out elk (17:30)
- Moving across the country to be an elk hunter (23:30)
- Becoming a photographer (25:00)
- Perspective of a wildlife photographer vs hunters (28:30)
- Wildlife photography benefiting your hunting abilities (31:00)
- Falling in love with the pursuit (34:00)
- Mentors leading to success (38:30)
- Breaking camera gear (40:00)
- Making the decision to do what you’re passionate about (44:45)
- What the future holds (49:30)
- Favorite animal to photograph (51:45)
- Being bear aware (56:45)
- Go with your gut (58:30)
- Advice for getting into photography (1:06:30)
This episode is brought to you by On X Hunt. I recently harvested a great bull in Montana and I owe a huge part of that to my OnX. This was an area that I had hunted years ago but because of On X Hunt, I was actually able to find a new access point to get into the area from a new way and save myself a lot of miles. For that hunt, I actually spent a ton of time on my laptop scouting areas and marking locations which are super cool because then when I get out in the field all of those points of interest I marked on my computer are now right there on my phone. It all worked out really well and I ended up finding a really cool bull and was lucky enough to harvest him. Another really cool new feature of the OnX hunt app is that after I shot the bull I was able to share that location with my buddy Butch who was coming in to help me pack out. which made it super convenient for him to know exactly where to find me. On X Hunt is hands down my best hunting tool I have for under $100 dollars and highly recommend getting it. Check it out and use The Rich Outdoors promo code TRO to save %20 off your membership. On X Hunt know where you stand.
This episode is brought to you by GoWild the ultimate app for hunting, fishing and the outdoors. We Actually just had Brad and John from goWild on the show and had a blast getting to know those guys and getting a behind the scenes look at why they built the app and some of the really cool features within the app. The GoWild app has a ton of cool features but one of the coolest features is the proprietary new scoring system that allows you to enter in your trophies and be scored on much more than just the inches of antler. Their scoring algorithm takes into consideration things like the weapon used, distance of the shot, public or private land. This gives you the ability to compete with your buddies even if he shot his buck with a bow and you shot yours with a rifle. The app also allows you to log time for things like hours scouted, or checking trail cameras. The team over at goWild understands that it’s more than just how many inches of horn a buck has, it is about the whole experience. Go check out the episode we and then go download the app. Its free and the best part is they do a ton of gear giveaways all the time!